[EddieFebruary]

unorclan, on Nov 10 2009, 01:02 AM, said:

Spam, on Nov 9 2009, 04:53 PM, said:

this is my theory if SD is good enough.

Rise of Stellar Dawn=Fall of runescape

Many people have the same ideas on what will occur the months after SD is released.
But I believe that Jagex has other plans. Sure, RuneScape may be empty a bit as everyone tries out the new game; but the plan seems to be that these two games will be so entirely different that sooner or later you pick which one you like the best and play it - or you play both. Plus, Jagex plans to attract a different crowd to SD rather than the same crowd playing RS.

Think about it this way - why would Jagex create a new product just to have their same old costumers just move over to that new product? No, they want a brand new group of players for their game, so Jagex will create a game to suit this new group of players.
And I'm sure Jagex wouldn't mind people playing both RuneScape and StellarDawn - but I doubt they'd make the mistake of creating the very downfall of their most valuable game.

Are you implying that SD won't be attractive to the majority (or a core) of RS players? Do you think that, for instance, the skillers will stay with RS; perhaps because they will have been given something new when SD is released?

Also, if SD was to attract a new crowd and if the game was a success, do you think Jagex might consider selling Runescape to another company?

This post has been edited by EddieFebruary: 10 November 2009 - 02:18 PM

[jmb]

I think that SD will be different enough and MMG has already hinted it will probably be more expensive than RS so i would expect that not everyone currently playing RS will be attracted to it, especially if you throw in the differences in the setting medieval v sci-fi, some people just prefer medieval.

I expect a large majority to try the f2p elements, but the take-up rate on membership could be interesting viewing.

[unorclan]

EddieFebruary, on Nov 10 2009, 03:05 AM, said:

unorclan, on Nov 10 2009, 01:02 AM, said:

Spam, on Nov 9 2009, 04:53 PM, said:

this is my theory if SD is good enough.

Rise of Stellar Dawn=Fall of runescape

Many people have the same ideas on what will occur the months after SD is released.
But I believe that Jagex has other plans. Sure, RuneScape may be empty a bit as everyone tries out the new game; but the plan seems to be that these two games will be so entirely different that sooner or later you pick which one you like the best and play it - or you play both. Plus, Jagex plans to attract a different crowd to SD rather than the same crowd playing RS.

Think about it this way - why would Jagex create a new product just to have their same old costumers just move over to that new product? No, they want a brand new group of players for their game, so Jagex will create a game to suit this new group of players.
And I'm sure Jagex wouldn't mind people playing both RuneScape and StellarDawn - but I doubt they'd make the mistake of creating the very downfall of their most valuable game.

Are you implying that SD won't be attractive to the majority (or a core) of RS players? Do you think that, for instance, the skillers will stay with RS; perhaps because they will have been given something new when SD is released?

Also, if SD was to attract a new crowd and if the game was a success, do you think Jagex might consider selling Runescape to another company?

Well, it will be attractive simply because it's a Jagex game and it's new. But I'm doubtful that SD would influence the majority of RS players to completely abandon Runescape; simply because the two will be totally different games and therefore not have much competition between them in the long run.
Do you mean that Jagex might make a major update in RuneScape along with the release of SD to try to contain their players? No, I don't think so. I don't think Jagex is the least bit worried about losing their own game (RuneScape) to....their own game (StellarDawn).

I highly doubt Jagex would consider selling RuneScape, simply because that is what they are. It is a huge success and the entire company was built around this game. It would probably takes years and years, a new Administration, Andrew to retire and leave the picture, and FunOrb to expand greatly; before they consider selling RuneScape. (Though this is just my opinion)

[Spam]

Max, on Nov 10 2009, 12:13 AM, said:

unorclan, on Nov 9 2009, 07:02 PM, said:

Spam, on Nov 9 2009, 04:53 PM, said:

this is my theory if SD is good enough.

Rise of Stellar Dawn=Fall of runescape

Many people have the same ideas on what will occur the months after SD is released.
But I believe that Jagex has other plans. Sure, RuneScape may be empty a bit as everyone tries out the new game; but the plan seems to be that these two games will be so entirely different that sooner or later you pick which one you like the best and play it - or you play both. Plus, Jagex plans to attract a different crowd to SD rather than the same crowd playing RS.

Think about it this way - why would Jagex create a new product just to have their same old costumers just move over to that new product? No, they want a brand new group of players for their game, so Jagex will create a game to suit this new group of players.
And I'm sure Jagex wouldn't mind people playing both RuneScape and StellarDawn - but I doubt they'd make the mistake of creating the very downfall of their most valuable game.

I agree. Stellar Dawn is supposed to be a very different game. I'm sure there will be players that bounce back and forth or just plain pick one over the other. I really doubt that RuneScape will just be abandoned though. I remember when so many people were saying that everyone was going to leave when the GE and all that fun stuff came into action. I certainly wasn't turned off by it but after some time I got tired of the game. Was it because of that? Who knows but the thing is that I do know is that a lot of players stay. So many bots left that the number of player decreased and a general bad pr and lots of angry players left from it. But I do recall RuneScape is still full blast and has recovered from that.

Yeah. That happened during my two month away time from runescape. When i got back i was ticked there was no good stuff anymore and then i found the GE. I plan on playing both SD and RS. SD is going to be a great game when it comes out. I just hope it is more customiseable than runescape was. The closest thing to customization in RS is what i am wearing and my POH sort of. Ships and an almost infinate amount of combinations for our race, would be awesome.

[EddieFebruary]

unorclan, on Nov 10 2009, 09:30 PM, said:

Well, it will be attractive simply because it's a Jagex game and it's new. But I'm doubtful that SD would influence the majority of RS players to completely abandon Runescape; simply because the two will be totally different games and therefore not have much competition between them in the long run.
Do you mean that Jagex might make a major update in RuneScape along with the release of SD to try to contain their players? No, I don't think so. I don't think Jagex is the least bit worried about losing their own game (RuneScape) to....their own game (StellarDawn).

I highly doubt Jagex would consider selling RuneScape, simply because that is what they are. It is a huge success and the entire company was built around this game. It would probably takes years and years, a new Administration, Andrew to retire and leave the picture, and FunOrb to expand greatly; before they consider selling RuneScape. (Though this is just my opinion)

unorclan, Thank you for your answers.

A couple more questions...

Mechscape was talked about as being a game that would based around technology rather than skills & xp. Do you think that SD will inherit this idea?

If so, how would you imagine that players will attain technology: Research? Discovery (re-discovery)? Dissemination from their race? A combination of these? Or do you have other ideas?

[Fireworks]

Well, I'm a little disappointed in the delay, but I guess it's not the end of the world. It's not like I don't have other things to do.

Time for a guess? Hmm... April 2011. There, if I'm right, you owe me 5 bucks.

[unorclan]

EddieFebruary, on Nov 11 2009, 02:00 AM, said:

unorclan, on Nov 10 2009, 09:30 PM, said:

Well, it will be attractive simply because it's a Jagex game and it's new. But I'm doubtful that SD would influence the majority of RS players to completely abandon Runescape; simply because the two will be totally different games and therefore not have much competition between them in the long run.
Do you mean that Jagex might make a major update in RuneScape along with the release of SD to try to contain their players? No, I don't think so. I don't think Jagex is the least bit worried about losing their own game (RuneScape) to....their own game (StellarDawn).

I highly doubt Jagex would consider selling RuneScape, simply because that is what they are. It is a huge success and the entire company was built around this game. It would probably takes years and years, a new Administration, Andrew to retire and leave the picture, and FunOrb to expand greatly; before they consider selling RuneScape. (Though this is just my opinion)

unorclan, Thank you for your answers.

A couple more questions...

Mechscape was talked about as being a game that would based around technology rather than skills & xp. Do you think that SD will inherit this idea?

If so, how would you imagine that players will attain technology: Research? Discovery (re-discovery)? Dissemination from their race? A combination of these? Or do you have other ideas?

Well, I do think that SD will keep many of the core ideas of advancement in gameplay that MS had, but I believe the details will change.
I actually haven't really thought about how a character attains technology, but I suppose that whatever I guess at, Jagex will just surprise us with something different. Jagex can occasionally be very creative, and with so much time and effort put into this game; plus a separate and entire working staff and team, I would hope and guess that Jagex will come up with something fresh and new to original gameplay.

[Cheung]

I wouldn't mind waiting as long as the released game would not be merely epic, but UBER epic, like "blow your socks off" epic, lol. Been so long... It should also have better graphics than the ones seen in the trailer. Good luck Jagex.

[Max]

Cheung, on Nov 20 2009, 04:14 AM, said:

I wouldn't mind waiting as long as the released game would not be merely epic, but UBER epic, like "blow your socks off" epic, lol. Been so long... It should also have better graphics than the ones seen in the trailer. Good luck Jagex.

It is better then the graphics in the video. That was before RS hd.

[Spam]

i'd rather get it soon and wait a few months for good graphics and stuff.

[scifire]

Any way to do a word search on a forum? I'd be curious to know how often the word "soon" has been used here .....

[lucymorgan]

The problem is the anticipation may lead to nothing. I agree that it's not the game that makes these forums fun.
This is always been the thread this days.

regards,
lucy

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Simulation pret

[Lord John]

gemlegaci, on Nov 21 2009, 02:31 PM, said:

Any way to do a word search on a forum? I'd be curious to know how often the word "soon" has been used here .....

You'd be shocked to find out. Also "When it's awesome" is another phrase.

Hehe, I found it funny that Lucy pretty much said the same thing as me a few pages ago and someone took it out of proportion. She's right. There is no evidence for the greatness of SD. There is also nothing to prove that it's a poor game, other than the fact that Jagex lost $10 Million pounds over 3 years on the failed SD we know as "Mechscape."

I'm not as confident as I used to be about its greatness however, based on the Runescape updates. I do just hope that the separate team for SD don't pull ideas from Runescape.

If they pull it off however, I'll be extremely happy; there are just lots of things that could go wrong which I really hope they avoid. (Artificial economies, poor community, poor controls etc.) If we look at these things in Runescape, we'll have a picture of a game with potential that is slowly spinning down the drain.

I'm looking forward to it as much as every other veteran of this site, but you can't just assume everything is going to be "awesome" and be totally disappointed when you log in. You have to look at both sides of the game and not just focus on the awesomeness and totally ignore everything else.

Feel free to pull my post out of proportion

[Charged]

I hope the Stellar Dawn will have the same concept, when it comes to the skills and PVP base..

[Scr34mnd13]

I learned about mechscape about 3 months ago, came to MSW and found out this is probably gonna be one of the best ideas JaGeX will have had since Runescape. I really can not wait to see what they have in store for us.

I really wish they could give us an approximate date so we can really be on the watch for it. I'll definitely be joining. Thnx MSW for making such a great fansite and thanks JaGeX for keeping making great MMOs for us to enjoy.

[Arodien]

Scr34mnd13, on Dec 16 2009, 08:26 PM, said:

I learned about mechscape about 3 months ago, came to MSW and found out this is probably gonna be one of the best ideas JaGeX will have had since Runescape. I really can not wait to see what they have in store for us.

I really wish they could give us an approximate date so we can really be on the watch for it. I'll definitely be joining. Thnx MSW for making such a great fansite and thanks JaGeX for keeping making great MMOs for us to enjoy.

Hey welcome to Mechscape World!

I hope you have fun here. Don't get depressed, everyone here has been waiting for some time for the game to come out... some longer than others.

They will likely not give us a release date until just a few days before the beta comes out, because they realllllly don't want to be commited to a certain day, because they may decide they want to re-re-create the game from scratch.....

[Chisp]

I've been waiting too long for this game to come out lol... Once it does, I have a feeling it will be amazing

[Scr34mnd13]

Fireworks, on Nov 17 2009, 09:16 PM, said:

Well, I'm a little disappointed in the delay, but I guess it's not the end of the world. It's not like I don't have other things to do.

Time for a guess? Hmm... April 2011. There, if I'm right, you owe me 5 bucks.

Thats probably an a fairly accurate guess. I'd definitely say at least a beta would come out by 2012. As for losing Runescape, the chances of JaGeX allowing that to happen are slim to none. If they see a major loss of active players on Runescape, chances are, they'll realize something went wrong. If anything SD should be a major expansion on the storyline of Runescape while still being a completely different game.

No matter what, JaGeX will definitely have something insane in store for us.

[Scr34mnd13]

jmb, on Nov 10 2009, 09:16 AM, said:

I think that SD will be different enough and MMG has already hinted it will probably be more expensive than RS so i would expect that not everyone currently playing RS will be attracted to it, especially if you throw in the differences in the setting medieval v sci-fi, some people just prefer medieval.

I expect a large majority to try the f2p elements, but the take-up rate on membership could be interesting viewing.

I remember there was an announcement saying that SD (mechscape at the time of the announcement) would be specifically geared towards an older audience. This may be an attempt to get the old players (Zezima probably being best known) to come back to the gaming community. Since they changed the game, this may be different but I doubt it. Runescape will still remain an easy to learn game and SD will most likely become the next step. I for one will be playing both. As for members like Gertjaars (current #1 on RS), nothing can be said as to whether they will turn to SD or keep playing Runescape. Without a doubt though, this will be a very interesting development.

[Scr34mnd13]

Scr34mnd13, on Dec 16 2009, 08:26 PM, said:

I learned about mechscape about 3 months ago, came to MSW and found out this is probably gonna be one of the best ideas JaGeX will have had since Runescape. I really can not wait to see what they have in store for us.

I really wish they could give us an approximate date so we can really be on the watch for it. I'll definitely be joining. Thnx MSW for making such a great fansite and thanks JaGeX for keeping making great MMOs for us to enjoy.

It's worth a shot anyways. Doesn't really matter. We're gonna be watching for new stories and latest developments. I'm just hoping that JaGeX can match or supercede the popularity of Runescape with SD. If they do it right, they could very easily bring a huge crowd to both from all age groups.